frontier001 said: I liked him better. Wish he’d been Jim Kirk. The way he played George was closer to true Kirk.
I can see that argument, I think either actor would have been great for it. The issue about closeness to true Kirk though I think is more or writing. In both nu-Trek movies Kirk has been written as, let’s be honest, a bit of a prick. They have no idea how to handle his character properly ‘cause they forget about the diplomat, the strategic genius, the excellent command style, and emphasise the charming rogue and womaniser aspects.
Apparently Chris Pratt was turned down for the role, I think he’d have been another very good choice.
The whole problem with nuKirk is so basic and simple: they write him as the stereo-type jokes made about Kirk from people who do not actually know Star Trek. They make him the womanizer who sleeps around, starts fights for the sake of it, shoots to kill, all bravado and minimal intellect. They write nuKirk as the caricature known to pop-culture rather than who he truly is. Which is, in my humble opinion, the greatest most significant failing of the new films.
The character is not meant to be who they’ve written him as. He didn’t face death for the first time as he was being born; he faced it first at age 13 on Taurus IV when he was nearly one of 4,000 of a population of 8,000 killed in a holocaust by Kodos over a good shortage.
He didn’t sign up for the Academy on a challenge, never even finish and become a Captain over-night. He completed his studies, and even taught at the Academy; he was a nerd for all intents and purposes. A “walking stack of books with legs” - not some callous asshole who barely knows the name of the female Cadet he’s about to sleep with.
He rose through the ranks steadily but rapidly over the course of about a decade; he wasn’t handed command through patronage and technicalities and then allowed to keep said command cause, well, they needed some reason to keep him around with their ham-fisted story.
NuKirk is nothing but a frat-boy cardboard cut-out, unworthy of the name. I don’t fault Chris Pine for this; I fault the writers and director. They chose to make Kirk a shallow idiot; Pine’s just playing who they wrote. Which is a shame because in the moment Pine’s Kirk does display the traits of Kirk Prime, it’s clear that he could easily play such if he was allowed to.
“I don’t fault Chris Pine for this; I fault the writers and director.”